Tuesday, February 2, 2010

PBS taught my daughter to lie

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I suppose it was our own fault to be limited by the whims of PBS...
Due to longstanding policy set down by the missus, we do not get cable.  At times, I’ve advocated for cable TV, but in the end I’m too cheap myself.
When it comes to children’s programming, all we have is PBS Kids at our disposal.  The Saturday cartoons of our youth no longer exist.  There are a fewSaturday cartoons, but usually it doesn’t occur to anyone to turn it on.
PBS has been fine for the most part.  From Caillou to Sesame Street to Clifford the Big Red Dog, the programming has been fun for our kids and mostly harmless.  They’re all a little annoying to adults, but one can deal with it. (Except for Barney the Satanic Dinosaur.)

One day came a new program: SUPER WHY.  Within minutes of the first episode I began to loath it and it became my daughter’s favorite thing in the whole world.
“SUPER WHY is an interactive reading adventure!
We begin each 24-minute reading adventure in Storybrook Village, a magical 3-D world hidden behind the bookshelves in a children's library. The Storybrook Village is the home of your child's favorite fairytale characters. Immediately, you'll meet the four best friends who anchor each episode: Red, from Little Red Riding Hood; Pig from The Three Little Pigs, Princess from The Princess and The Pea, and Whyatt, the curious younger brother of Jack from Jack and The Beanstalk who discovers he has the power to fly inside books to find answers to his questions. Each of these characters is re-imagined as an everyday kid, not unlike your child's own friends: Red rides roller blades; Pig drives a trike; Princess loves tea parties and dress-up; and Whyatt is the group's natural leader.
Even the description makes one want to vomit.
These programs that feature a group of kids always have white alpha male as the leader.
Each episode starts with a preschool relatable problem.
The solution is to look for the answer in a fairy tale book, in which they physically enter the story.  Oh, and they all have inconsequential and uninteresting special powers.
The Super Readers can solve any obstacle with their literacy powers!
They solve the problem of the story’s characters and therefore one of the Super Readers’ problems by changing the text and meaning of these old fairytales.
Hip Hip Hurray! The Super Readers save the day!
Victorious, they leave the story book and do a Hip Hip Hurray dance. It's the lamest dance ever shown on a screen.



I don’t have a problem with adapting literature for new purposes.  But this show does it in a way that completely eviscerates the original point, the original lesson of the story.
For example, the episode that taught my daughter to lie.
In this episode, the boy who cried wolf has problem that no one believes that he sees the wolf even though he is telling the truth.  This mirrors Whyatt’s problem that his parents don’t believe him when he said that his baby sister said her first word to Whyatt.
In the story, the boy does see the wolf but the wolf hides each time the townspeople come.  The problem is solved when the frustrated townspeople confront the boy with their disbelief and frustration and the boy tells them with all sincerity that he is really telling the truth, “Trust me!” he pleads. Everybody then says, that they DO believe him.  The Super Readers change the text so that the nice wolf appears and explains his absence because he was shy. The wolf gets to meet all the townspeople. 
Whyatt solves his problem back at home by insisting that his mom and dad “trust” him that he’s telling the truth.  His parents say OK, and immediately his sister repeats her word for everybody.
At the time, I shook my head in annoyance of their perversion of the story.
The next day I asked my four year old to go to the bathroom and wash her hands before dinner.  She insisted she already did.  I knew better.  I insisted again.  She righteously proclaimed, “I already did, daddy! TRUST ME.”
What powerful words! “TRUST ME!” We immediately had a calm but stern discussion on the difference between telling the truth and just saying you’re telling the truth.  The discussion had to be repeated a few times over the following weeks.
Of course that was the lesson she would take! The damn show taught her that adults will listen to you and believe you if you just say “Trust Me” in a particular way. They did this at the expense of the other side of the lesson, that of credibility and the importance of truth telling.
Even preschoolers can be taught that credibility is something that can be lost and earned and that telling the truth is important.  The original story of the boy who cried wolf is a bloody, but otherwise age-appropriate lesson for young kids. This show messed that up and merely taught my preschooler that talking in a sincere manner is all that is needed.* It taught my daughter to lie.
Plus, their animation stinks.

* Is it possible that Glenn Beck watched this episode and took it to heart?

Comments

The last line made me shudder even more than the description of the show!
Owl_Says_Who
Eww. This makes me sad, I remember when PBS was COOL. I learned about Cookie Monster . . lol


-R-
LadyMiko
I am very familar with the work of Super Why (rolling eyes). I have a seven year old who has been watching it for about a year or so now. We have about an hour discussion about the thirty minute show each time he does. He carries to heart the same messages that your daughter does and it can be very tiresome at times to explain for the 500th time that there is more to the story. I just got to the point that I let him watch Power Rangers instead LMAO LMAO!
KDStorm
*sigh* PBS was once great, now it just sounds terrifying.
lorianne
I was so happy when my daughter got into Word Girl! and Martha Speaks on PBS instead of SUPER WHY. Word Girl! is actually pretty funny. Martha Speaks (about a talking dog) is harmless. I'd rather she watch an adult themed movie with lots of bad language than the crap known as SUPER WHY.
Skeptic Turtle
"Trust me" Don't those words just scream: I'm not really going to tell you the truth?

Looks like the lame shows haven't gotten any better since my boys were little. Thankfully they hated that purple blob Barney as much as I did. I'm not sure I could've stomached 30 minutes of that.

Great post. The bad influences are everywhere though. How about just getting rid of cable? That's what I did:)
Eden Simone
Okay, whoops. Just re read the first line and saw that you already DON'T have cable! At my place without cable we don't get any reception, so nothing for TV at all...that's what I was suggesting:)
Eden Simone
Eden, I'm about this close to getting rid of the TV altogether. But then I realize that my kids would be that much more insistent to use my computer at all hours.
Skeptic Turtle
As you know - no kids here - but I do have nieces and nephews and I need to stay apprised of their world. THIS SUCKS.

I occassionally watch Word Girl all by myself though ;-)

I suggest a letter -writing campiang. After all, these fairy tales with the moral-to-the-story haven't lasted for 100+ years for no reason!
Kellylark
Oh, for the days of The Electric Company! xox
Robin Sneed
It's a show that neatly mirrors our political landscape, populated as it is by people who say TRUST ME! in a particular way...and amazingly, people do. Your daughter is being taught by that dumb show that betrayal is a handy and inconsequential tool to getting her way.
SFine really
Kelly, I'm glad I'm not the only adult who enjoys Word Girl.

Robin, The Electric Company is back! Thank goodness. And my daughter loves it. http://pbskids.org/electriccompany/

Sandra, the one nice thing is that these bad lessons could be untaught fairly easily. But now kid #1 is getting to an age when peers at school and other outside influences hold increasing sway and parental influence is dissipating.
Skeptic Turtle
There's so much patronizing crap made for kids with perverted morals and feel good endings. Disney is the king of this with the non-Milne Winnie-the-Pooh being the worst of the lot. Give me Pollyanna any day.

Kids don't need help to learn to lie. They do benefit from pointers on how to do it successfully.
Malusinka
Your daughter learned to lie and you learned what your wife already knew: TV is evil. Trust me!
The Biblio Files
"The damn show taught her that adults will listen to you and believe you if you just say “Trust Me”"

Oh, I've known some "Leaders of Industry" who wrote the script for this episode.

"Trust me, when I tell you, nothing will happen..." Teehehee!! Okay!!

;)
Tinkerertink69
Damn them!
Ablonde
Derek, that is a very discouraging example of what kids can pick up from a supposed educational show. Back when my sons were younger they tended to like the PBS shows related to nature like "Kratt's Kreatures" and not so much the ones with any type of animation, except for "Arthur."
designanator
How does one deny a pre-schooler who beseeches "Trust me Daddy!"
This show sounds so wrong!
R
julie Kiernan
Et tu, PBS? _r
Joan H.
This sounds like an awful show. Tell her to stick with Word Girl. We don't need any more politicians-in-training!
Lisa Kern
Oh man...this kind of thing makes me happy my daughter is now an adult. And no, Glenn Beck would never watch PBS he is just an a-hole. xx a
Akopsa
"TRUST ME" is used by car salesmen, politicians, lawyers, bosses, and religious zealots when they are lying. Rated.
OEsheepdog
You, know, our friendthe squirrel also uses the "Trust Me" phrase a lot...
Skeptic Turtle
Little ones are quick like that. At least your daughter doesn't identify with the antagonist in every scenario, like my middle son. I have not seen Super Why (and I thought I knew all of them), but it sounds like it's grown from the "sticky" school of preschool entertainment. Too bad, "trust me", is what they chose to make "sticky".

Great post!
1_Irritated_Mother
I probably shouldnt admit this, but some of the programming for the older kids is actually pretty good. Sid the Science Kid and Fetch with Ruff Ruffman show great teamwork and cooperation as well as the science based foundation they support.

Just wait a few years, it does get better. And in the meantime, get DVD's of The Muppet Show for them LOL
Placebostudman
I enjoyed reading this. The only kids' shows worth their salt on PBS are Sagwa, The Siamese Cat, Sesame Street and Between the Lions. The rest are horrible mush for the brains of young people. Cable is actually better, since you can pick science shows. Better yet, the library or Netflix that way you can control exactly what goes into young minds. I agree with you about the animation. It is an art and when it is done bad it insults the intelligence of the child. Those old fairytales are still good reading and there are some good video versions.
Lucy Simpson
Gosh, that dumb, empty-minded cartoon might be bad for your kid's creativity as a whole. What insipid blandness. I'll tell you, that Barnie ruined it for all cool kid's show.

Where's Gene London when you need him? (Only Philly-based people would know that program. His kid's show was one-of-a-kind - strange, emotional, very real and accessible, beautiful. I'll never forget it. Once when he was telling a story, he started crying!)
Beth Mann
These days we're more likely to watch Word Girl, Sid the Science Kid, Fetch with Ruff Ruffman, and the Electric Company. Sid annoys me, but the rest are pretty decent. We try to limit screen time. By may calculations the kids get 4-8 hours of TV time a week.
Skeptic Turtle
Sure, your daughter gave "Trust me" a shot after watching SUPER WHY. But it lead to a great conversation. Better to nip that in the bud early than when she's an adventurous teenager :) I think sometimes things that lead to conversation are very worthwhile in the end.
Kristi Piziks
So glad that when my kids were PBS age, they had "Wishbone"!
gwhizz
Been digging up Gene London since my last comment. Here's what he used to sing. Almost made me tear up a bit because I vaguely remember it:

He sang this ditty before launching into a story:

Let's Pretend is a story time
And I'll tell a tale to you.
I'll tell you a story of make believe
And all your dreams will come true.

And when the story's over
And when we reach the end.
We'll live happily ever after, Where?
In the land of Let's Pretend.
Beth Mann
PBS, Disney, Cartoon Network... I say be careful with them all. It's incredible how sarcastic, manipulative and far to grown up a lot of the characters are.
Amanda Gulledge
Such is the folly of letting TV teach our children. You as a good parent are active in what they watch and correcting them. That is a good thing and Kudos.

In the quest to make everything PC and "non offensive" classic stories with very specific morals all end with everyone loving each other. In the original story the strong message of do not lie or you destroy your credibility is reinforced by the wolf eating the boy. As harsh as the original story is, it is closer to the truth. Instead of the child being taught that trust is gained by consistent trustworthiness and can be lost with a few careless words; they are taught just saying the magic words makes them trustworthy.

One of the biggest draw backs of TV is it teaches life is nothing more than quick fixes and happy endings. Maybe that is the biggest lie it teaches children. Children's programing is the worst offender of consistently showing unbelievable outcomes by just using magic to solve the problem.
M Todd
Makes me glad my kids have moved on to teen angst movies and shoot-em-ups.

Although every so often we'll be flipping around and they'll scream at me if I try to flip past "The Princess Bride".

Rated. I thought PBS stood for Pretty Boring Stuff. I guess it's now Preschoolers Being Suckered. Although I must say I like their concerts. Well, most of them.
Bill S.
How odd. A PBS show taught someone's daughter how to lie. That's usually the parent's job.

I'm sorry to sound smug, but what did you expect? You can't control what your kid will learn by simply placing her in front of a television. Particulary with shows like "Super Why" which are apparently designed to get kids to think for themselves. One of the concepts they may "discover" is moral ambiguity. Better to watch this show with your kid (I know, and restrain your gag reflex) or turn it off once Sesame Street is over.
jp1954
M Todd, indeed. One of the worse offenders is Dora, who makes everything better by repeating words, like "Swiper no swiping!" A few years ago SNL did a spot on parody of this kind of children's programming: TV Funhouse: Maraka
Skeptic Turtle
jp, I'll pardon your smugness if you pardon mine. I don't think that teaching someone to get what they want with the magic words "Trust Me" counts as teaching her to think for herself or learning about moral ambiguity. I never said I thought I could control what my kid learns (from TV or anything), but I didn't expect a PBS show for preschoolers to teach my kid to lie. Maybe in that sense I'm naive.

Bill S, I'm looking forward to my kids being old enough to watch A Princess Bride. Hopefully soon! My 6 year old recently watched the Blues Brothers (I forgot there was so much swearing and shooting) and I certainly preferred that to a lot of kid's programming. (She loved the Blues Brothers.)
Skeptic Turtle
stupidest. dance. ever.

The writers of this show are morons. I miss old pbs, when the writers and creators all had degrees in childhood development.
marcelleqb
SuperWhy is a horrible attempt at copying the style of shows on Nickelodeon such as Dora, Diego, The Backyardigans etc... PBS should stick to what they do best... TRULY EDUCATIONAL TELEVISION FOR CHILDREN...as my four year old daughter would say, ''Quit being a copycat''... GREAT POST...
Wayniak
there's something wrong with that? when you come to a part of the story you don't like, change the letters around to mean something else? next you'll say politicians and pundits do that
Fudo Myoö
I would've liked it better if the townspeople accessed the town surveillance tapes, spotted the wolf and eliminated him with a drone missile. Whyatt should've called 9-1-1 immediately. Shyness my ass, that wolf was probably trying to cover something sinister and better a pre-emptive strike than an endangered populace.
noah tawls
if there's one thing I cannot bear it's the white-washing of children's fables.

they did not all live happily ever after - and that was the fucking point

oh, and don't get me started on DORA! AND HER COUSIN, DIEGO! THE ONES WHO CAN'T SPEAK, BUT CAN ONLY SHOUT EVERYTHING! CAN YOU SAY, "SHOUT!" LOUDER! Apparently merely chanting someone's name for encouragement can facilitate all kinds of amazing feats.

Although I'll say I have learned a lot from watching Diego - who knew so many animals spoke Spanish? Especially the penguins, I guess, because they're from the South Pole.

am I deluding myself that Sesame Street was actually trying to teach me something?
Fudo Myoö
fudo... lets not forget that you can stop a thief simply by saying ''Swiper, no swiping... Swiper no swiping...''
Wayniak
Just this last week while watching Dora, my younger daughter (>3yrs) indignantly yelled out when Dora asked her to say 'backpack' a second time: "I ALREADY DID!"
Skeptic Turtle
I loathe heavy-handed moralistic entertainment for children, whether it comes in the form of television shows, computer games, or books.

Just give us the actual fairy tales, and let them work their own magic on young minds.
Lainey
So PBS reading shows have gone from "But don't take MY word for it..." to "Trust me"?

GAH.

(Sadly, "Reading Rainbow" was canceled this year due to lack of funding.)
Leeandra Nolting
Trust me. You don't want cable (a finishing school for mendacity).
Steve Blevins
This is terrible! That's why I only let my kids watch HGTV and Food Network.
Linda Shiue
Karin, Backyardigans I actually find more than tolerable - in truth I enjoy most of them. That is until we have the Netflix DVD in the house, which he not only refuses to let go of after a day or two, but insists on watching repeatedly. Do NOT spend two days home sick from school with a new Backyardigans DVD.

Now if they would only make new episodes of the Upside Down Show...
Fudo Myoö
Future used car dealers of the world unite. You have nothing to lose except your honesty, integrity, etc.
old new lefty
Tis puts me in mind of the lame attempts to "modernize" Shakespeare or translate the Bible into contemporary English. While I have nothing against this practice per se, the results are all too often lame. A first-rate translation requires a translator very nearly as gifted as the originator. And what are the chances of that?
Tom Cordle
Skeptic,

I constantly shake my head at children’s programming that I see these days and I wonder how much head-shaking our parents did when we were kids.

I can see your problem. The change in the story as you present it is clearly problematic, and one must question the reasoning behind it, which seems completely pointless. It distorts the original value, seemingly adds no new value, and creates ambiguity instead of clarity.

Having said that, the lesson your daughter apparently took from this was a lesson she was bound to learn eventually, anyway, and you have had the opportunity to address it well ahead of the curve. In a sense, even though it was unintended, the show presented you with an open door for meaningful discussion with your daughter about a particularly devious form of deception.

The interesting discrepancy in all this is that the story did not present a child who was lying and still asking people to “trust” him. So, in a sense, the lesson that you daughter took from it was something that she put together on her own after the fact. In my experience, kids do not need to be taught to lie; they cleverly figure that out for themselves quite easily.

It wasn’t ALL bad in its result. Of course, the ongoing issue is that you’ll need to pay closer attention to what she sees on shows such as this one. My guess is, though, that she won’t learn anything from this show that she won’t learn elsewhere soon enough, which is not a defense of the show, at all, just what I see as a realistic observation. Parenting is no easy task, to be sure.
;~)
Rick Lucke
I don't like today's cartoons they are creepy. Maybe you should limit the cartoons and stick with real books. Childeren learned from books long before TV and V tech and other gadgets. PBS has changed.
Poppi Iceland
I loved this. Thanks for pointing me over here. rated.
Caroline Hagood
It sounds way too much like a preschool indoctrination program for future politicians.
bikepsychobabble
It might've happened even without this insipid show. I can't count the number of "bad influences" I absorbed from TV and tried out on my poor parents. There used to be some patent medicine hawked in the early-to-mid 1960s, that featured an upset woman having her shoulders shaken by a "well-meaning" family member or friend, who commanded "Control yourself!" Ha - I tried this exactly one time on my mother. There was not a second time...
GA-TNline
Perhaps the lesson SuperWhy could really instill into kids perceptive enough to notice it, is to be skeptical of all authority, and parse the pronouncements of self-proclaimed experts. Or as another unquestioned authority figure once said, "trust - but verify" ;)
punterjoe
Sounds to me like your daughter attempted to lie to you before she resorted to the language of SuperWhy.

Still this is why I prefer either pure entertainment (like scooby-doo) or academic (Cyber Chase) programming rather than morality based programming.

To me that represents stepping over the line. Yeah, more than likely I agree with their little morality play but whether I do or not, those are the kinds of things that should be taught by parents.

I feel that unless kid's programming that claims to be educational isn't just a really bland person staring at the screen and saying over and over "Turn me off and go play" its hypocritical.
FilthyHarry

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